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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400 [by cli55er]
Project Blogs:: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
Time has not been kind to my memory.
Re: Various CL Pickings [by cli55er]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Various CL Pickings
Looked like a pedal to the left of the brake only missing the pad. Must just be the carpet folded or something
Transmission Mounts for 1937 Packard 115 C [by Corsaseven]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: Transmission Mounts for 1937 Packard 115 C
I have transmission mount failure, noticed it when I replaced my power train. I know Steele reworks them but was wondering if I have any other options as far as other vendors. I have 2 nice 1938 mounts but need 2 -1937 transmission mounts for my 115 C. Any suggestions ?
Re: 1937 Front Carpet [by Corsaseven]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: 1937 Front Carpet
Hi David,
I will take a photo of the floor mat tomorrow and post in on the forum later in the day. Its in pretty bad shape. Thank you for your reply.
Re: Flocking Colors [by David Grubbs]
General:: Flocking Colors
I ordered the kit from Flokit for the trunk of my 39. Wish I had known the glove box door had flocking; I would have done the door as well. They will mix the colors to any shade that you want. But I had the trunk done in a medium gray, so that wouldn't have worked on the glove box, since it should be a brown. Something else to put on the list.
Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe! [by 51Packard]
Project Blogs:: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!

I removed the passenger side headlight bucket in preparation to rewrite it. Didn't find the time to do it yet. I did manage to run the rest of the rear wires into the trunk. Ran out of green wire for the switches so will finish that another time. Took the reading light switches apart (original plus the one from the '51) cleaned all the contacts and added a tiny bit of grease so they slide much nicer now....
Re: Packard tears up the Milwaukee Mile [by 58L8134]
Shows and Events:: Packard tears up the Milwaukee Mile

Neat photo, a 200 with the optional 327 could give the Olds 88's a run for the money. If they'd had a lower center of gravity, the Hudson Hornet might not have had all the wins they did.

55 Clipper brake scraping? [by duane.g]
V-8 (1955-56):: 55 Clipper brake scraping?
I have owned this car for over 16 years and have put over 60k miles on it. So I don't own a trailer queen. It has been driven from Phoenix, Az to Los Angelos, CA and had it's picture taken with Big Kev's 54 Clipper.
The problem I am having is a scraping noise coming from the back of the car. It only scrapes half the tire rotation. When I go slow I hear it until I apply the brakes. I don't hear it when I am going faster, above...
Re: 4 barrel carter carb,won't run engine at iddle, keep stalling [by JW]
Post-War (1946-54):: 4 barrel carter carb,won't run engine at iddle, keep stalling
Have you adjusted the idle mixture jets? They are two brass screws with a screwdriver slot and located in the bottom front of the carb.

Usual place to start is to screw them in until they just bottom out (DO NOT TIGHTEN!), then unscrew a turn and a half.

To adjust the idle set the engine idle speed so the car will idle as close to the specified speed as possible then screw in one of...
Re: 1917 Packard Twin Six motorhome [by RogerDetroit]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: 1917 Packard Twin Six motorhome
This thread needs a photo!
Re: 28 5-26 Carb Rebuild Kit [by Tim Cole]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: 28 5-26 Carb Rebuild Kit
Right, when the choke is closed the auxiliary air valve is also held up closed for a rich mixture.

I never ran into the problem you describe. I've only had worn out needles, seats, and paper gaskets being blown out.
Re: spark plug wiring loom [by David Grubbs]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: spark plug wiring loom
Thanks Howard. That helps. I got a roll of metallic core cable yesterday and when the parts stores open tomorrow, I'll get a bunch of ends and make my own cables. The ones on the 39 right now are carbon core, which doesn't seem to work extremely well, plus they are bright yellow! I know the woven cotton covering is correct, but at least some black metal core cables will look and work better until such time as I can spring...
Re: Carter carb. Vacuum [by Ozstatman]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: Carter carb. Vacuum
G'day Gordie,
Going , I invite you to include your '41 120 in the Packard Owner's Registry here on PackardInfo.
However a warm to PackardInfo, but sorry I can't help with your query.
PPG Open House, Sunday, Oct. 19th. [by RogerDetroit]
Shows and Events:: PPG Open House, Sunday, Oct. 19th.
Yes, we are getting into fall and time again for the annual Open House at the Packard Proving Grounds - Sunday, October 19th.

Live music by the Johnny Trudell Band will fill the Repair Garage.

For the kids we will have Pinewood Derby racing by Cub Scout Pack 92. Bring your derby car to be tested at the PPG or use one of house track cars and see if you can be our Cub Scouts.

Who's coming??
Re: The Stripper Clipper (1955 Panama) [by 64avanti]
Project Blogs:: The Stripper Clipper (1955 Panama)
Photo of engine
Re: HA's 52 200 Grey Ghost [by 58L8134]
Project Blogs:: HA's 52 200 Grey Ghost

The method my professional mechanic friend uses to isolate the location of knocks is to use a metal rod, one end against the oil pan, the other to his ear. With the engine idling, he moves to each bearing location, listening for sharper knocks, notes any differences. It usually works quite well.

Although he hasn't had to diagnose any flatheads lately, it also works on their lifters. Even overhead valve-train knocks are easier...
Re: V8 Build dates 5682-1955 [by DaveB845]
V-8 (1955-56):: V8 Build dates 5682-1955
There were all sorts of delays getting the 1956 models into production. But your vehicle number is a fairly early one, meaning it was the 955th Patrician produced at Conner. But you're cutting it close if you need to prove it was made before November 1955. The aforementioned production sheet will tell how close it came and if it was within the deadline.
Re: WTB 1956 Patrician rear glass trim piece [by HH56]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: WTB 1956 Patrician rear glass trim piece
Also try He has a lot of 55-6 items and deals on ebay so probably does Paypal.. Most likely Mike Dulinski will have the item but not sure how he does the payment. He also isn't great with email so contact might be a problem from New Zealand.
Re: Wanted- R11, 3 speed w/OD to overhaul for 1949 super 8 [by David Grubbs]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Wanted- R11, 3 speed w/OD to overhaul for 1949 super 8
the O/D on my 51 wasn't working so in the process of checking it out, I looked at the kick down switch (under the accelerator pedal, on the engine side of the firewall. It has lots of phenolic plastic on it. In the process of looking at it, it literally fell into pieces in my hand. Fortunately I had a spare one off a parts car that was in good shape. I cleaned it up and installed it...
Re: how to remove the chrome trim on a 39 120 [by David Grubbs]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: how to remove the chrome trim on a 39 120
Thanks Dennis - I suspect the right answer for me is to tape off the radiator grille. This is going to be a nice driver paint job, not a 100 pointer for Pebble Beach.
Re: electric fuel pump pressure [by PackardV8]
Post-War (1946-54):: electric fuel pump pressure
Be careful routing electric thru mechanical. If mechanical ruptures the diaphragm the fuel can get pumped into crankcasee. I don't like routing thru the mechanical pump.
1939 six cyl. coolant leak below water pump [by JIMO]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: 1939 six cyl. coolant leak below water pump
i am restoring a 39 6-cyl, which has suddenly developed a coolant leak just below the water pump in the center of the engine. There seems to be some kind of plug there, difficult to access without removing the generator and/or fan. I can see what appears to be an old dry gasket protruding. Any thoughts on what this is and how to remedy without removing the entire front part of the car? It is definitely...
Re: Packard first to use neon sign [by skateboardgumby]
General:: Packard first to use neon sign
ah, believe me, I take everything I hear on those shows with a health dose of skepticism. Not until I verify what they claim by doing a bit of my own research, do I take it as gospel.

I can't remember right off the bat, but I know for certain that Rick on "Pawn Stars" made a claim about some aspect of history that was off the mark.

So, I do appreciate your warning.
Re: Packard minesweeper engines [by Steve203]
General:: Packard minesweeper engines
Plus, the Packard-built V-12 is a big plus!

iirc, that film says that the 4M-2500 was derived from the Liberty, an example of leveraging development work that had been done on the government's dime.

If they had done what Ford did at Willow Run,

I need to clarify that. What I ment was that, after building Willow Run on the government's dime, Ford could have bought it for 20 cents on the dollar.

Studebaker did take advantage...
Re: Recent additions to the Owner Registry [by Ozstatman]
General:: Recent additions to the Owner Registry
and Deskdriver for including your '49 Eight Touring Sedan in the Packard Owner's Registry.
Re: REAR WHEEL BEARING [by randy berger]
V-8 (1955-56):: REAR WHEEL BEARING
I saw nothing wrong with it, but you're the judge of what you post.
Re: Wanted: My first Packard [by Zach Dillinger]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Wanted: My first Packard
PM sent Louis. Looking forward to discussing the car.

Wanted: RH headlight lenses for 1937 115c [by Ken P]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Wanted: RH headlight lenses for 1937 115c
My car has two left hand headlight lenses. Both are in great shape, but I would like to put a right hand lenses in the right headlight. I am looking for one. I would be willing to purchase, or trade for a lefty.
Re: Question about 47 Clippers [by RichieFuller]
General:: Question about 47 Clippers
Thank you Howard, appreciated as always. Richie.
Billings MT auction Saturday, Aug 30 [by David Grubbs]
Shows and Events:: Billings MT auction Saturday, Aug 30
Sorry about the late posting, but just heard about the 49 Packard up for auction tomorrow, Aug 30. It appears to be a nice running car, and it has a fairly low reserve. Also several Studebakers - the 29 is a well done car - I've judged it in the local car shows and it is almost impossible to find any nits. If anyone is interested in calling in a bid, you can contact Craig Gould before the auction tomorrow. His...
Re: Clemens’s 47 Custom Super Clipper [by troglodyte]
Project Blogs:: Clemens’s 47 Custom Super Clipper
Thanks Howard, that‘s a good idea ...

Latest news:
… mysterious conveyor belt ripping in southern Germany continues unabated …
Re: 1947 clock [by troglodyte]
Post-War (1946-54):: 1947 clock
Took the occasion and had another look at my glove compartment.

Well, the light was not missing. What I mistook for some sort of capacitor for the clock is:
the light!

When I took it out I noticed the missing light bulb …

I couldn’t dismantle the bulb holder, but soaking with some contact spray and thorough cleaning afterwards with white spirit and airgun freed up the mechanism enough to working order. Dismantling the bulb holder...
Re: coolant leak on a '38 Eight? [by Owen_Dyneto]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: coolant leak on a '38 Eight?
Since from what I can see it has occurred in 3 areas where the exhaust manifold sees the highest temperatures I wonder but it isn't some sort of heat-degradation of the exhaust manifold paint. For example, notice that none of it shows on the rear ear of the exhaust manifold where it's bolted to the block which is acting as a heat sink and it seems to follow the line of highest likely temperatures.

PS - if indeed it's...
Re: Overdrive R-9 from 6V to 12V [by Ima48too]
Post-War (1946-54):: Overdrive R-9 from 6V to 12V
Interesting electrical problem. I think in the long run Ohm's Law is going to win and it will be back to the drawing board.

It might be better to adapt a mechanical actuator to replace the solenoid. A cable or lever with a detent could be a more reliable way of holding the the engagement over a long drive, maybe less smoke.
Re: Vibration [by Bernardi]
V-8 (1955-56):: Vibration
Thank you. Will do!

Re: 1955 high optioned Custom Clipper reluctantly for sale [by customclipper55]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1955 high optioned Custom Clipper reluctantly for sale
Thanks. Yes she drives beautifully. Here she is on a trip to captree boat basin for cars and crumpets. has a pro show board also goes with car.
Re: Concours @ St. John's (Old Meadow Brook show) [by RogerDetroit]
Shows and Events:: Concours @ St. John's (Old Meadow Brook show)
IIFC, I have not missed a Meadowbrook/St. John's Concours since 1988. My wife and I have volunteered there for the past 24 years. Always great to see the cars and people we've met over the years.

I've been so busy I not even downloaded any of the photos I took at the event. Supposed to rain over the weekend, maybe I can do it then.
Re: 4 position light switch on my 1939 120. [by Jim McDermaid]
General:: 4 position light switch on my 1939 120.
The 1939 110 coupe I once owned had the 4 pos. light switch switch feature.

As I recall when it was all the way out the dimmer witch on the floor only dimmed the feft headlight.

I may be backwards on this, but you could keep the right headlight on high beam in one of the two positions.

I had two beams high and low. I don't recall if the low beam filiment in the bulb was lit along with the high beam filiment.

1951 Packard Patrician Sell/Trade Vintage Trailer/RV or Nash Metro/Rambler [by TheVintageLife]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1951 Packard Patrician Sell/Trade Vintage Trailer/RV or Nash Metro/Rambler
1951 Packard Patrician. Needs to be reupholstered. Running/driving but not perfect.Have extra trim,exterior pieces. Beautiful car.

Looking to sell or possibly trade for a vintage trailer (with the birch wood interior a plus), or newer RV. Larger size, with kitchen & bathroom for either.

Also consider trade for a Nash Metro, or Nash Rambler.

Email me at:
Re: Howard's 47 Custom project [by cli55er]
Project Blogs:: Howard's 47 Custom project
Lol if there is a free plane ticket involved ill go anywhere!
Re: An Air Cleaner from a '33 - To Clean or Disassemble [by Marston]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: An Air Cleaner from a '33 - To Clean or Disassemble
Thanks for the links it was made for interesting reading on the air cleaner. I appreciate all of the information on the K&N and AEM air cleaners.
Re: prewar coupe spares question, 6 cylinder. [by Ozstatman]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: prewar coupe spares question, 6 cylinder.
G'day IanF,
to PackardInfo and prospectively to the world of Packard ownership. To answer your query bearings are usually readily available from the major Packard parts vendors Max Merritt and Kanters and no doubt others. And a request of you, WHEN you purchase the '38 Six Coupe could you please include it in the Packard Owner's Registry here on PackardInfo?
Re: Detailing engine, colors/finishes... [by Owen_Dyneto]
Post-War (1946-54):: Detailing engine, colors/finishes...
If you're asking about a 22nd series, the answer lies in a factory assembly line photo which I'll post again if I can find it easily. Damper and pulley are engine color.

Russ, as I recall you also have a 34 Eight? If you're asking about that one, the vibration damper is painted in aluminum paint and the pulley is black.
Re: 1938 Touring Six Value? [by fixem39]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1938 Touring Six Value?
Hi, the reason the rear fenders are glass is because the rear fenders were missing and I had some made.
Re: 1955 Packard Door handle kepps falling off ARRRGHHH! [by MrBumble]
V-8 (1955-56):: 1955 Packard Door handle kepps falling off ARRRGHHH!
This is like the gift that keeps on giving!

I solved my door handle problem through an exasperating series of trials and errors, I finally found a solution that has been working for more than a year (no, really). Along with a rather weak clip, I lodged a piece of felt into the gap and drove the concoction home by gently tapping the handle with a rubber mallet. I know it sound bizarre, but it seems...
Re: Vin, Serial number and body number location [by Owen_Dyneto]
Post-War (1946-54):: Vin, Serial number and body number location
Curiously, very close to your car is 2272-16828 and it's a 1948, not a 1949. Theft-proof number is also just a few digits away, 871028. Have you checked in Bob Neal's book to see if your car might be a 1948 left-over and "renumbered" car?

PS - looked at the data a bit more closely. Your car's numbers are really right in step with other 1949 2272s except 2272-16828, so it's the one that's the anomaly,...
Re: WTB 55 4 barrel base gasket [by ks114]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: WTB 55 4 barrel base gasket
I sent them an email. Thanks!
Re: Rotella Motor Oil [by JW]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: Rotella Motor Oil
Years ago I had a 1976 914 Porsche. It was an oil burner, and to lessen the consumption I ran 20W-50 Castrol. I had no garage in those days so the cars sat outside. One very cold winter morning I went out and started the car and went back inside for a couple of minutes. As I was backing out of the driveway I noticed a huge puddle of oil. I quickly pulled the car back in and shut it off. What a mess the oil made. Later I found that...
Re: New available motor oil [by Owen_Dyneto]
V-8 (1955-56):: New available motor oil
You are right, everytime I found a straight 30 weight petroleum based oil, it was shown as unavailable. Strange.

You just have to look around and shop real-time as opposed to Internet shopping. I went into KMart today to get socks and took a walk to the auto section; saw straight SAE 30 detergent by the case. And Pennzoil no less.
Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project [by TroyT]
Project Blogs:: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
yeah, computer was freezing up and I reversed them. It is a 55 pat and a 56 Clipper
Re: 1950's Designing Women of Packard [by JW]
General:: 1950's Designing Women of Packard

RogerDetroit wrote:
...Finally, they mention that Margaret is 103. Yes, we celebrated her 103rd birthday at that National Meet. But in June of this year she turned 104 - she is still going strong and taking her Packard around on the concours circuit.

Margaret and her Packard are scheduled to be special guests at the "Concorso Santa Fe" (Sep. 26-28). Looking forward to meeting and talking with her. I volunteer for...
Re: 1942 120 convertible badged as 160 [by JW]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: 1942 120 convertible badged as 160

bkazmer wrote:
... For judging, I think "modified class" is a bit harsh - deductions for the incorrect trim in open Junior feels more appropriate...

I think normally, what you said would be appropriate.

Salado classes are for display, and voting is by the participants for their favorite Packard in each class. There are no formal points deduction and formal judging criteria.

I believe the Packard was...
Re: Repair panels for 1947 Clipper [by HH56]
Post-War (1946-54):: Repair panels for 1947 Clipper
None that I know of. The link you have -- C2cfabrications is about the only company making repair panels for Packards. The bodies are similar enough that some of the panels for 48-50 will work on the earlier Clippers but don't believe they have much for that area you need and don't believe any of theirs are just drop in. Several threads here regarding the amount of cutting and forming that still need to be done to make their panels work.
Re: Exhaust Advice [by DaveB845]
Project Blogs:: Exhaust Advice
One more thought, on the subject of resonating or not: the further back you get from engine heat, the corrosion factors increase. Resonators would go first in a steel system. From my Dark Days of automotive service in the 1960s, Ford pushed their mufflers all the way back in an effort for Quiet equals Quality campaigns. Mufflers would rot in two years with that change (plus leaded gasolines). This led to them introducing aluminized...
Re: 1951 to 1954 Shop Manual [by Don Pierson]
Post-War (1946-54):: 1951 to 1954 Shop Manual
Thank you for the information and it rather confirms what I suspected about Sections I and II. After my original post, I finally found the PDFs of the manual that are online and they do have 25 pages under Section I Management that seem to do with many aspects of business, such as Advertising, Personal Telephone Calls and dealing with Customers but nothing critical to do with repairs or anything really useful. Even so, having...
Re: LJJ's 1947 2126 7 Passenger Sedan [by HH56]
Project Blogs:: LJJ's 1947 2126 7 Passenger Sedan
Generally there is still some metal to metal contact in spite of the anti-squeak on the straps. Tank ribs touching the trunk floor and via the fuel line are examples. That makes a good contact on a new or undisturbed car but on a freshly painted or a rusty car, or one where the line was cut and rubber tubing inserted, it certainly won't hurt to add a good ground strap between a sender mounting screw and the body to avoid...
Re: spring for adjuster on drivers seat-33,1003 [by Dell]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: spring for adjuster on drivers seat-33,1003
O-D and PackardBarry; thanks for taking the time to look. i did get the handle out today, was able to unscrew the two pins, one locks the seat and the other appears to hold the the shaft in as it is up by the handle. also the rear of the shaft has a hole for a pin which is missing and it appears to lock the shaft in a round bearing of some type at the rear of the frame. it will be lots of fun to try and...
Re: Front carpet for 1937 Packard 115 C [by Corsaseven]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: Front carpet for 1937 Packard 115 C
Thank you
Re: 55PackardGuy's '54 Clipper Deluxe [by HH56]
Project Blogs:: 55PackardGuy's '54 Clipper Deluxe
Here is what the 51-4 manual has to offer.
Re: For Sale 55 Clipper Super Sedan [by JW]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: For Sale 55 Clipper Super Sedan
More photos from the Grand Tour. This one is of Carl Altz, the last surviving Packard test driver, and the Clipper. It was taken at the main gate of the Proving Grounds. The Clipper can be yours. Be a part of Packard history.

Re: 1940 Custom Oil Canister and Low Compression [by Owen_Dyneto]
Post-War (1946-54):: 1940 Custom Oil Canister and Low Compression
September 16, 1940 is the date most often cited though that may be the date of market introduction and not the commencement of manufacture.
Re: A relaxing Day Driving a Packard in Southeastern Arizona [by customclipper55]
General:: A relaxing Day Driving a Packard in Southeastern Arizona
I agree with Ross on the repair. You can do it at home we can give add. pointers. You do not want to "crush" the collar to add any additional preload. You may want a new nut or loctight. I used to mark the nut and pinion tip with paint . Then run it up to match the marks. First check fluid level, cond and spin the rear several times from the pinion to ensure on grinding, noise, roughness, or play in the...
Re: Turn signal repair [by mtpackard51]
Post-War (1946-54):: Turn signal repair
Thanks all. I'll give this a try.
Re: 1937 Packard 8 [by Ima48too]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1937 Packard 8
Exposure sells cars. Get your cars out and drive them to all kinds of events. It shows reliability and people get to know them.
I know of a few fairly upscale cars that the owner decided to part with. One phone call; "I've decided to sell my car." When the car is right and the price is right the known cars go quick.

If you drive your car 15 miles per week it will always be at it's top value.
Re: Power brake and standard trans. [by HH56]
General:: Power brake and standard trans.
What year and which levers are you having trouble with -- shift levers which partially mount to one of the master cyl mounting bolts or one of the brake actuating rods?
Re: WTB 55 heater core [by ks114]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: WTB 55 heater core
An old time shop that does quality work.
Re: Electronic ignition [by PackardV8]
V-8 (1955-56):: Electronic ignition
Tim Cole. Are the bushings in your distributor worn and need replacement???
Re: Packard & Hudson proximity [by Steve203]
General:: Packard & Hudson proximity
On Romney's decision to go with Rambler exclusively, he did have some encouragement to conclude that would be a successful strategy in the continually increasing numbers of imports selling here.

The market made up Romney's mind. In 56, the new Rambler accounted for about 2/3rds of AMC sales. In 57, senior car sales collapsed.

The 62 merger would have been interesting. DeLoren promoted from Packard engineering to President of...
Re: Door jack--reliable and low cost--if possible!!! [by Marston]
Project Blogs:: Door jack--reliable and low cost--if possible!!!
The suggestion to use some of "your buddies" is the approach that I've been using on my 1932 901. There are several major drawbacks 1) a little smelly, ) unkempt, 3) drink too much beer and 4) hard to get much work out of.

Since I hesitate to go down to the local "Hire a Back" spots, I'm considering using a different work force pool. So I've been looking for a pool of workers that have qualities like...
Re: 22nd Series Custom 8 Club Sedan Production Break Out? [by BryanMoran]
Post-War (1946-54):: 22nd Series Custom 8 Club Sedan Production Break Out?
Re: West Fargo Cruise Night July [by JD in KC]
Shows and Events:: West Fargo Cruise Night July
Based on the data tag on the door the car was originally mono-tone Aspen Green (code 'O'). It appears the car is currently mono-tone Aspen Green. Why mess with correctness? Not to mention that the car looks great.

If I simply had to re-paint in two-tone (in this case I wouldn't) I'd go with Gallant Green over Aspen Green (combination code 'JO') which would be correct for the year and very similar to O_D's '54 combination....
Re: Packard on Display [by 58L8134]
General:: Packard on Display
Hi acolds

Thanks for the pictures, nice turn out of Packards and Studebakers as well as other independent makes. That '53 convertible looks very elegant and sporting in light yellow. The '37 Twelve is a knockout, though one blue would have been enough. After 1931, fenders in another color or shade aren't as appealing.

Re: The big four way [by Tim Cole]
General:: The big four way
I don't think the whole merger thing would have worked anyway. Packard already had a nice lower priced car called the 110 which they dropped. The dealer penetration argument is about the only valid point. All the brands needed more points of sale. In the postwar area I like the Packards even though the Cadillac is better engineered, a Ford would blow Ultramamtic off the road, the Plymouth is head and shoulders better transportation, and...
Re: Removing power train - 1937 115 C [by flackmaster]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: Removing power train - 1937 115 C
no need to remove the top....just unbolt the trans from the bellhousing, etc., and lift it out/up though the removed floorboard area.
Re: 1935 - 1937 senior Packard fender lights [by Owen_Dyneto]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: 1935 - 1937 senior Packard fender lights
Another indication in addition to the wiring diagram that fender lights were available is that fender lamp bulbs, # and candlepower, are listed in the bulb chart in the shop manual.

I don't know how they handled the two different parking light or fender lamp possibilities with regard to the main headlamp but in 1933/34 if you had fender lamps the headlight reflectors only had a single bulb (the headlamp...
Re: 1940 vs 1941 120 rear fenders [by flackmaster]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: 1940 vs 1941 120 rear fenders
1940 rear fenders are totally different from 1941.
Re: Query for O_D [by Tim Cole]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: Query for O_D
I know that car intimately.

It was owned by Anthony Celentano of Celentano Foods. He had the car painted by Rich Fass and Tommy Cavana at the same shop that did Bill Hirsch's work. That was in 1973. The paint job used Hirsch lacquer and held up well with only an age crack around the left front fender bead when I last saw it in 2001. The striping was done by Marty Beron. I delivered the car to Marty.

The Super 8 headlights were...
Photo of my 37 Packard 6 Oil Pressure Line [by Corsaseven]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: Photo of my 37 Packard 6 Oil Pressure Line
Hi Everyone
For the record here is a photo of my oil pressure line. Thank you again for your help.
Re: Oil Pressure line for 1937 [by Owen_Dyneto]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: Oil Pressure line for 1937
The fitting in the photo BDeB posted is one I have never seen

Same fitting as used on my 34 and I believe rather commonly used on Packard during the 30s and earlier for this application.

Did they have the regular compression and flare fittings back then that we have today?

Certainly they had conventional inverted flare fittings in that era, they are used on the gasoline, vacuum and oil filter lines and why they didn't...
Re: 39 Junior and other parts for sale [by 39SixSedanMan]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 39 Junior and other parts for sale
John, I don't have a clock. Thanks for asking.
Re: 55 Clipper Door Handles [by 64avanti]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 55 Clipper Door Handles
PM sent
Re: A day at the Museum [by TroyT]
Project Blogs:: A day at the Museum
Yes John, Many of the Studebaker building are still up and in use. The largest building still standing is used to house a computer network system. The main Bendix plant is now Honeywell, but their older smaller plants are still standing as well.

South bend did a good job forming the Studebaker, Oliver, and South bend Lathe legacies into a new center for history. Our local Packard club will be hosting the 2017 Packard meet at the...
Re: Golf Door Lock Needed [by TimSD]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Golf Door Lock Needed
Thank you. Great suggestion. I'll try that.
Re: Packard plant pipe dreams [by Ozstatman]
General:: Packard plant pipe dreams
Article from Hemmings.
Re: 1955 Clipper Constellation Emblems Needed [by jfrom@kanter]
V-8 (1955-56):: 1955 Clipper Constellation Emblems Needed
We have them NOS if you still need them. $87 each


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Re: 1948 Super 8 on e-bay [by bkazmer]
General:: 1948 Super 8 on e-bay
I can't tell from the photo if that's (incorrect) Bedford Cord or close to correct striped broadcloth.

The paint seems way too metallic, but hard to tell in the photo. The Metallics were very fine

but an attractive car
Re: 1932 901 - Door latches and windows [by HH56]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: 1932 901 - Door latches and windows
And if McMaster or MSC doesn't have the rivets you need, here is another place
Re: Former Packard (Merlin) Building is Leased [by Steve203]
General:: Former Packard (Merlin) Building is Leased
I was half joking with the comment alluded to in the first paragraph but now that I think about it, isn't the last Detroit mayor in the cross bar hotel because of something like those under the table envelopes.

Given the former Mayor, and several cronies in the slammer ("ran the city as a criminal enterprise" said the Federal prosecutor), a former councilwoman now on parole after doing time for taking bribes, and...
Re: 1938 rear fenders [by JW]
Modification Discussion:: 1938 rear fenders
Have you advertised for a pair of rear fenders? I would place an ad in the For Sale and Wanted section and see what happens. I do not have a body parts book handy, but fenders from a '38 Eight will probably fit as well as ones for the '39 120 and 110 models. I hope this helps.

Re: '53 Caribbean for sale..... [by Ima48too]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: '53 Caribbean for sale.....
Wow! I'm glad I didn't make the trip. I just bought my Packard about 5 weeks ago so I'm playing catch up. I spend most of my time on the AACA forums in the Buick section. My Buick interests go back to my pre-teen days.
I'll have to file that one in the ambiguous names file.

Nice collection, glad I didn't win the Bill Mitchell folding chair.
Re: New "What Ifs?" [by Leeedy]
General:: New "What Ifs?"

Steve203 wrote:
Leeedy, add to your list nearly every US Navy combat ship smaller than a carrier uses gas turbins.

But with all the money and talent put into automotive gas turbines, none of the companies that made that investment was able to make a business case to put them into production.

wrt Packard experimenting with fuel injection, they were not alone. AMC also experimented with the Bendix "Electrojector" system in the late 50s. Chrysler actually got a few Electrojector equipped cars sold, but soon retrofitted those cars with conventional carburetors because the EFI was so underdeveloped and unreliable at that time.

My focus on the "what if" threads is what could Packard have done, with the resources at hand, on it's own, without a handout from the government or other well heeled entity, to get itself past 1956.

We know how the Studebaker thing turned out

We have established that a purchase of Willow Run, as you suggest, would have broken them faster.

Best things I can come up with are the merger with Hudson as Barit offered, and diversification into truck engines, either on their own or by aquisition, but I don't know who in the industry at that time would have been small enough for Packard to aquire (Hercules in Canton, Ohio?)

Re: Debi's 1953 Patrician [by duane.g]
Project Blogs:: Debi's 1953 Patrician
Thanks Ross. I need to look at these things closer before I say anything. I did get another clip from a local Packard guy who happened to have a few distributors on hand. With the Parts X-Ref I was able to goto NAPA and get a new distributor and rotor the next day.
Love this forum!
Thanks Kevin
Now to get back to waiting to order the rubber for the doors before doing the interior door panels, headliner and carpeting. Of course...
Re: Brake Shoe Part Number [by steve828]
Post-War (1946-54):: Brake Shoe Part Number
Ok, thanks for your help!
Re: 1938 rear fenders [by 39SixSedanMan]
For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1938 rear fenders
Fenders have sold. Sorry for the late update to the For Sale listing.

Re: Cracked block on 1922 Single Six [by Ed B]
Pre-War (1899-1942):: Cracked block on 1922 Single Six
An earlier reply didn't take, so I'll try it again...

Yeah, this fine old machine resides in my back yard. That video was taken before I found it, so I had nothing to do with that posting!

The tracks are a Conversion kit you could buy in the late 30's. It is the only machine I know of, with that kit, and I've never spoken with anyone that has seen one.

When I purchased it, the radiator wasn't connected. I...